A lively exchange unfolded on ABC’s The View as co-hosts debated the Democratic Party’s future direction, exposing a growing divide between fiery progressive rhetoric and calls for pragmatic action.
During Monday’s broadcast, Whoopi Goldberg pointed out that progressive leaders such as Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) are drawing large crowds at rallies across the country, filling a vacuum in leadership on the political left.
“At a moment when leadership roles on the left are wide open,” Goldberg said, referencing a surge in enthusiasm behind Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez.
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Goldberg also commented on Sanders’ recent appearance on ABC’s This Week, where he made headlines for abruptly standing up during a pre-taped interview after pushing back on a question from host Jonathan Karl.
The Vermont senator called the query — which centered on whether Ocasio-Cortez should challenge Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer in a primary — a “nonsense” question.
Schumer had recently joined Republicans in passing a government funding bill to prevent a partial shutdown, a move that has reportedly caused friction within his party.
“So Bernie, AOC are out there, people are really kind of annoyed a lot about what’s going on, maybe not everything, but much more than we were seeing perhaps in the media and on different shows,” Goldberg added.
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Co-host Ana Navarro echoed the sentiment that voters are hungry for bold leadership, noting the size of crowds attending progressive events.
“People are thirsty, desperate, to hear somebody that gives them fire, that leads them into this fight, that channels their anger and their frustration,” Navarro said.
“That’s why Bernie Sanders and AOC are getting 34,000 people to show up to a rally in Denver. Fifteen thousand people to show up to a rally in Phoenix. I mean, think about this. They are not running. This is not an election year. This is two months into the Trump Administration, and they are getting tens of thousands of people because people want to fight, and they want somebody that will lead them in that fight.”
Sunny Hostin acknowledged the growing appetite for an opposition party with fight but questioned the effectiveness of the messaging behind it.
“They want a fighting opposition party and that’s the majority of the country. I think that’s why AOC and Bernie are sort of packing these things,” Hostin said.
“What I will say is, I don’t know that the message is correct. I think that their messaging is a little bit off. If you look at what people want and are looking for, because costs and economy is still No. 1 and taxing the rich may not do that for the majority of people. They want to see much more of an action plan. How do you address my pain?”
Sara Haines, widely considered one of the more moderate voices on the panel, warned that fiery rhetoric alone is not enough to rescue the Democratic Party from its current struggles.
“I can see why people like the AOCs, the Bernie Sanders, I can feel myself clapping along, but the problem here is whereas they’re tapping into the anger, I don’t think just screaming and kind of performative, ‘We’re gonna fight’ is the way to go,” Haines said.
“I want absolutely solutions and that’s why I like Sen. Slotkin, who I keep repeating here over and over. She said, ‘I’m a pragmatist,’ and I’m a pragmatist. She is from a purple state. You can’t come at it just like – an AOC comes from a completely blue area, Bernie Sanders, completely blue area. Elissa Slotkin, Trump won her state.”
Haines continued, “So when you are dealing with that electorate and a country that’s divided, it requires a different school of thought. I love to hear you shout, but I’m much more the person that says, ‘Show me what that got you.’ If screaming got you some budget plan or a resolution or compromise, then bravo I will be the loudest one behind you. It didn’t. So I’m a more, ‘Put your heads down, unite under something and get your messaging going.’”
As internal party debates intensify, the divide between passion and pragmatism continues to shape the Democratic Party’s path forward in the post-election landscape.
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